Saturday, November 19, 2011

Why would people complain that Ed Miliband was elected Labour Party leader because of the trade union vote?

The Labour Party was established by the trade unions to represent the interests of the working people of the UK. Why all the fuss when he was elected largely because the unions wanted him as leader?|||Most of those who do complain forget that the present ' electoral college' was set up by New Labour, which is funded to a large extent by the unions. The Labour Party was originally set up to protect the interests of working class people, who still make up the majority of the population, and whatever their financial circumstances, should be union members.


Unfortunately, since Thatcher, the right wing press and right wing governments, have carried out a propaganda war against the unions, thus alienating many of those who should be supporting them.


Those who complain do not want to see the workers of this country given any chance by Ed Miliband of restoring the democracy that once existed.|||Because the Trade Union vote was from people who were voting twice, perhaps even more times if they belonged to more than one socialist affiliation other than the ordinary Labour party membership.


The hypocrites in the Labour party would be screaming blue murder if the captains of industry or professional organisations were able to cast votes in favour of the other political parties in addition to their own individual membership: and quite rightly so because it is not democratic.


Where has the one man one vote gone.


The Labour party believes in democracy but only when it suits its own purposes.


Ed Miliband managed to defeat his own brother by getting second votes from the Unions, possibly on the promise that he would look after their demands and he would drag the Labour Party back into the old days of Socialism bordering on Communism.|||Why indeed. They would try and have you believe that he is now beholding to the unions, what a load of tripe. The unions vote for Labour as they know that Labour are the best hope for the people they represent. Do you really think that if Ed Milliband goes against them that they are going to stop funding the Labour Party, and in so doing, weaken Labours chances of beating the Tories in an election? I am personally glad that Ed Milliband beat his brother. We now have a leader of the Labour Party who has been voted in by the working class vote, against his brother who's votes represented those of Labour MP's. The only people complaining will be Blairites and those on the right.|||The people who complain are quite obviously right wing Conservatives who have a cushy job where Unions are not needed to safeguard jobs or working conditions. They are obviously well paid, have their own homes, probably with a small mortgage or none at all and can still afford a holiday abroad twice a year. They are anti Labour, anti Union and anti anything that could be considered socialite. These arethe people who would arrogantly pass you by in the street if you fell over and were dying of a heart attack. They arethe ones who look down on the poor and weak in society and treat them like something you just dragged in on the sole of your shoe. They consider themselves far too good to speak to the likes of anyone who consideres themselves 'working class', though they are nothing better themselves. They drive around in 4x4's and think the whole world revolves around them.





Unions were created for one very important purpose. To protect the rights of workers in the workplace and ensure a high degree of health and safety in the workplace from unscrupulous employers, of which there are still many today. True enough, the Unions were at one time all powerful and could hold the country to ransom, but that is hardly likely to happen on any large scale today. Militancy and far left dogma are restricted to a very few Unions these days and many people have benefited over the years from Union membership. The Tories have always hated Unions because they hate the idea of the working man taking away their control and depriving them of their fat cat profits by use of strike action. In some cases it is necessary. Dont forget that without Unions, we would still have children working in mines at the age of 6 and wages would be pverty line at best. Read your history if you want proof of that.|||Simple. The unions bankroll the party and therefore command the lions share of the vote.





The people who complain are the same ones who formed the last government and didn't understand that spending costs money, which is why we are in this appalling mess.





Listening to Hariet Harmon and Hazel Blears on the Daily Politics show, I don't see labour posing a serious threat to the coalition anytime soon.





Alfred. I have voted for all three during the last 30 or so years, and I have to say that when they stay in power for any length of time I find them all equally corrupt, greedy and repulsive. Incidentally my last vote was more about voting Labour out than for either of the other two.


Forgot to mention. I've been a member of the SDLP, Conservative Party and a Shop Steward in Unite. So a real "bundle of contradictions". lol|||May I suggest that the unions went for Ed, simply because he is the most inexperienced politician on the platform and will be easy fodder for the bully boys that lead the unions.


His brother David is a complete different kettle of fish and would not have bowed down to the unions demands and there will be plenty of them to come.


I for one do not want a future candidate as Prime Minister of this country, elected by the Unions. Its like the mafia installing a Godfather on their behalf.|||In the eyes of your typical right wing bigot, trade union = bunch of communists trying to destroy the country.


The fact that trade unions have members who are ordinary people and that these people vote for whoever they like is not going to register in their heads.





I wonder if RiKi has ever wondered who funds his favoured party and how democratic their decisions are?|||Union membership is much smaller these days than it once was and the unions represent a huge percentage of the vote in the labour party whilst not representing a huge amount of people.|||Probably because they fear he will become a Union stooge. The majority of people that are complaining probably remember the 70's and are worried that if elected he will kowtow to Union demands as previous Labour leaders did.|||Its not that as much as that his victory was very, very close.|||this is the US, not britain.

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