Friday, December 2, 2011

In Switzerland, Turkish Labour Party leader whose name Perincek is judged by Swiss Court. What do you think ?

Dogu Perincek is a leader of Turkish Labour Party. He said that, 'So-called Armenian Genocide is a lie' . What about freedom of thought ?


Is this Europa ? Why do people wear 'Horse-Glasses' ?


I am curiosly your answer.


Kind Regards|||Europa is talking about that there is no independence of ideas in turkiye [because of 301. law which says a person who insults turkiye or turks, are punished], while they have such kind of laws, even also they get involved about the so-called genocide which is nothing to do with them. So, where is the indepedence of ideas in Europa?





Perincek has gone to Switzerland with many documents which show that there is no genocide and turks have been killed by armenians, too. if someone says there is armenian genocide, s/he has to say there is turkish genocide, too. Even turkish archieves are open and turks doesnt take these claims seriously, many people believe in the genocide so that in their country armenians talk about a so-called genocide so much.





Why those countries accept this nonsense thing by their courts or laws and dont let historians talk about it?





This is the ignorance of big, modern and improved Europa. Or this is a politic effort against turkiye...





Turkish law constitution has been modelled from Switzerland's, so what about that also?|||DOGU PERINCEK IS A VICTIM OF EUROPEAN LAWS "DO NOT TELL THE TRUTH" OR YOU WILL BE JAILED......





NO ARMENIAN GENOCIDE ITS A LIE OF PEOPLE WHO SEEKS MONEY AND LAND.........|||A dear friend of my family was an orphan survivor of the Armenian genocide. He found refuge here in the USA, so you cannot tell me it did not happen.


It is a bad habit of the Turkish establishment to deny that the Armenian genocide ever happened. You may remember that the Turkish Armenian Hrant Dink was prosecuted in Turkey for asserting the reality of the Armenian genocide, and was then murdered for telling this truth.


I don't think that Perincek will be murdered in Switzerland, whatever he may say.


I am from USA, and I think free speech is essential. I have always felt that in the free market-place of ideas, the truth will come out.


Therefore, I would not favor laws against denying a well-known genocide, as idiotic and evil as this denial is.


Still, I understand the European point of view; they are afraid the horror of the Jewish holocaust could be repeated.


I don't know if you are aware of this, but Hitler used the success of the Armenian genocide to justify his genocide against the Jews. "You don't hear any complaints about the Armenians anymore, do you?" He thought that if Turkey could get away with the Armenian genocide, he could get away with killin all the Jews.|||First of all,it is illogical to blame an empire for being racist.Racism within the boundaries of an empire is far removed from the social science,because the subjects and accordingly the administration of an empire is made up from various nations,creeds and cultures.For that reason,almost all of the eminent rulers of the Ottoman Empire were of Greek,Serbian,Jewish,etc.Racism would be the main cause for the empire to split up.What happened was this:some Armenian armed groups, financed by the the Allied, supported the Allied Forces,yet the Ottoman Empire took the German side at WW 1.The Ottoman Empire drove the Armenian population to Syria,which was a province of the Ottomans then,as a precaution just like American administration collected Japanese immigrants in the camps during the American-Japanese war and like Stalin drove Turkic peoples to the inner part of Russia from the borders of the Ottoman Empire(my grandparents fled to Anatolia then,but all of their relatives were expelled to Kazakhistan and my grandparents never saw them again).Today,the toll during the journey to Syria is assumed to be a genocide by many European states,but they ignore thousands of Azerbaijani civilians killed by Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh.The worst of all,the court that was set up for the war crimes commited by the Serbs in Bosnia verdicted that what Serbs did to Bosnians was not a genocide.(8000 Bosnian men were killed only in the small town of Serebrenica by Serbs)excluding the other towns and the women and girls systematically raped by Serbs.|||Freedom of thought. Sure you are free to think whatever you want. Just as free as I am too. That mean if you express an idea I should be able to express my view about it too.





Here is question a man is standing in graveyard and says there are no dead people. Is free to say that.





What are Horse-Glasses anyways.





As free thought goes the West should be free to call all Muslims terrorists right under free though.|||It is a shame on Switzerland to convict someone who speaks of the truth. This reminds me of Europe in dark ages.


Look at what the lady from US writes above - she and many people like her are so convinced of a genocide that they don't even want to hear anything else, like they have been there and recorded events. I don't even think majority of these people with 'horse glasses' researched the issue or even dared to listen to those before ruthlessly accusing their ancestors of a crime like genocide. Power of propaganda amazes me.


You are free to belive whatever you want to believe, but it gets dangerous when they start convicting, attempting to silence others that don't think like them. In Switzerland, world might be going back to being 'flat' again.|||The truth has a way of coming out .And there will always be nut cases around

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